A valid argument is when you can back up with supporting evidence. It is when the argument is provable, legitimate, and correct.
For example,
“Boiling Crab is the best seafood restaurant in San Jose because it always has a long line!”
It isn’t a strong argument due to the reason the evidence that supports it doesn’t have to point to the argument being made.
Just because a restaurant has a very long wait doesn’t make it better than any other. It could be that the restaurant’s capacity is smaller than the amount of customers, lack of efficient seating customers, or customers take so long eating the food.
A strong argument would be “Boiling Crab is the best seafood restaurant in San Jose because customers often wait for many hours to eat despite its long line compared to many other seafood restaurants. Plus, many customers became loyal after eating there.
A strong argument is persuasive, but may not essentially be truthful or based on accurate facts. It is also make it hard for people to refute.
4 comments:
That is so true the line for boiling crab is crazy! Whenever I go there, there is always a huge line and the wait is crazy, but it is worth it in the end. I love seafood and this place is pretty good for the pries and the wait. Your argument is extremely true because I remember once I waited outside in a line for a so call best pastry in the world when I was down in Paris and let me tell you it was terrible! Maybe it was just me but I feel that it was not worth the 2 hour wait at all.
I've been wanting to go to The Boiling Crab for a while now! Seafood is heavenly, man. :) Nice example! I think the longest I've waited in a restaurant would have to be around three hours, which was really unfortunate because I don't think the food was terribly good either.
I can easily see the point you're trying to make, and completely agree with the particular point of the misconception of how longer lines immediately equate with better quality restaurants, and how that may not always be true. Also, how in this case when proving a strong or valid argument, the way the statement is written may not help in supporting that premise but instead lead to a less believable claim. Sometimes it's also the reputation that the place has that makes it seem like it has great tasting food, but when one actually eats there, it's a total disappointment.
I think the way you ended up re-writing the statement was a vast improvement because it gave a more believable and more in depth reasoning for the restaurant's long lines.
Another argument you could add to why Boiling Crab is so popular in San Jose could be Yelp reviews. I believe there are 4 stars out of 1700 reviews, that shows the popularity of the restaurant. Also adding to your argument of why that statement is weak, HYPE could be a factor of why there is a long line. Alright, I'll be honest, Boiling Crab is alllrigght, I don't really think it's worth $9.99/lb of shrimp and the price of their seasonal crab is outrageously overpriced. I think I could get a better deal at a Chinese restaurant with better flavoring. I remember when I could get a medium sized box of fried shrimp from a Chinese take out restaurant for only $3-$4, freshly cooked. Then it got me to wonder, why did I even think BC was so great in the first place when I could get about the same amount of shrimp for MUCH, MUCH cheaper?... It was the HYPE!
I thought that this was a very good example because it showed an example of an argument that was not very strong. A lot of the examples in the book and many of the examples that people gave in their discussion question posts were examples of arguments that were strong. It was nice to see an example of a weak argument and see it from the other side, so to speak. The possible things that could prove the premise wrong were also very true. They were things that happen on a daily basis at restaurants that could explain why The Boiling Crab always has a long line. It was a real life situation that many people encounter all the time so it made it very easy to understand the definition of a strong argument.
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